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Title: 2005 Election of TUP-V SAO Officers Issue
Description: computerized election


The KG - July 14, 2005 08:58 PM (GMT)
Posted on behalf of Conzen

Last july 4, 2005, the comelec held the legislative election and used a computerized system in coordination with link (a computer enthusiast club). there was a low voters turn out that occured so they declared failure of election and conducted another election by room to room process. give a reaction.

The KG - July 15, 2005 06:30 PM (GMT)
Low turn out of voters, Why did this happen? Here are my possible reasons

1. In my opinion, this is because some of the students, specially the ones who are not computer tech students think that the computer tech students are being cocky(padayaw), so they wanted them to fail.

2. the attitude of asking"whats in it for me?"

3. Maybe the students did not like the project leader(probably a TUP V prof or a student)

To the computer enthusiast club

This is a job well done depite the project being a failure(partially), it still gave them something to learn that they may help them in their jobs. Its really not an ambitious project, but its a good project. Kudos to the computer enthusiast club....

The moral behind this, we wont succeed until we learn to unite. Just take a look at our nation...

gabriel - July 16, 2005 01:43 AM (GMT)
Nice to hear that our school is moving with trend of computerization, or say going techno savy. But my suggestions before impelementing such move, the computer enthusiast club must first conduct series of surveys and reactions from students.

1. Surveys to know the population of those who have omputer backgrounds, this will give time for the computer club to conduct series of cascades and info campaigns re computerized election.

2. Surveys to know who is IN or OUT for such computerized election. Probably the 'OUT' population is higher that 'IN' on the first implementation, that's why there is low turn out of voters.


To the computer enthusiast club,

Still a job well done and more power. Don't hesitate to give it another shot!

roadkill - July 16, 2005 09:00 AM (GMT)
Hey, I was a member of link before!!!

Computerized election is a BLAST!!! The only problem? Promotion of such Technology and Cooperation.

Eversince, majority of the students "just-dont-care" of what's happening!!!

During my 5th year, We did our best in studying Macromedia Flash just to show how can one optimize his Digital Presentation and Website. We took so much time from our leisures in creating animated websites, a lot of effort we shed to bring our computers to school for exhibits, but nobody did care to visit our display.

We felt bad of course! Sleepless nights completing the project seems not to be paying off.

Everyone was to his own adventure. That actually made TUP Visayas a state college with the least voiced students.

Each seem to have a world of his own. With his small circle of friends, they either go to robinson's --arcade-- or inom-inom sa gwa or gaming.

Maybe being bound within the school's corners was stressful? I don't know, but during my time, dismissal was synonymously considered REST and STUDY. hehe

Who's the present Link president? last 2002-2003 it was Philip. I forgot his last name but he was on his second year ecet while we were on our last year in ece.

rastaman™ - July 19, 2005 09:29 PM (GMT)
maayo gid ina nga balita nga sa subong nga tyempo gali computer na ang ginagamit sa election sa aton eskwelahan.. pero sa banta ko kulang pa siguro sa impormasyon ang halos sa mga estuyante da subong amo na nga dyutay lang ang elction returns nga nakuha ninyo.. ngaa?? indi na kamo sang manual election haw?? mas mayo na ya ya kay ma-hands-up ka na lang kon maboto ka o indi..hehehe..

base in my opinion, you should first conduct a survey if all the students are interested in that computerized election.. in that way, im sure you would have a good election returns..

mangkot lang ko tani.. sin-o2X ang mga nagdalaog sa election da man? nagdlagan dyapon sila TACUD, MANUEL kag MANZO?

madamo gid nga salamat ah!! muzta na lang da sa inyo tanan!! :smoke

conzen - July 20, 2005 10:15 AM (GMT)
added info:

it was already the 2nd computerized election, on the other hand, last year's computerized election succeeded. it was held at the student's lounge while this year's election was held at com. lab 3 at the new eb(extension building).
the positions for election were legislative positions that did not include the president's seat. i did not hear of tacud, manul or manzo this year... ano na sila na year nong? c kenneth capasilan subong ang president, last year si nong glenn jamie tambis...

reydon ace - July 20, 2005 11:37 AM (GMT)
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i did not hear of tacud, manul or manzo this year... ano na sila na year nong?


i think manzo was the vice-president of year (if i'm not mistaken. he won over mariane hinolan) while tacud is one of the senators. they won the executive elections last february (that's before i left there. bwahahaha...) anyway, how are their performance?

about the computerized elections... i guess same thing. it succeeded last year, so why not this year? either the students doesn't support this or the students doesn't know there is an election. it also happened last year. it was announced that there will be a computerized elections but surprisingly, some students still doesn't know this and were not able to vote because of this. i don't know about this but my boardmate once told me, "Ay, tingala man ko nga-a daw kadamo tawo sa student's lounge."

Matrim - July 22, 2005 01:07 AM (GMT)
I think computerized election is an excellent move and thus reflects improvement for the school icon. What we really need here is a promotion and to propagate whatever plans and events involving the students.
Maybe the 1st time did turn out well because everybody is exited and eager to be part of history.

To the Computer Enthusiast Club.........Job well done!

D'mars - July 22, 2005 04:01 AM (GMT)
Maayo nga plano na. We have have to move on and be part of the new technology. Kung indi na umpisahan, ti san-o kung puro manol na ang mga tawo? My suggestion is, you need to have a disssemination compaign para maintindihan kag mabal-an sang mga students kung ano ang contribution sa aton tanan.
To our Computer Enthusiast Club..... good job

Steven.Rivera - July 22, 2005 05:01 AM (GMT)
kampay sa tanan nga mga marunong sa computer.... etchepwera na lang sa mga manol...... hehehe.... :rolleyes:

Poksie - July 22, 2005 11:38 AM (GMT)
It nice to hear nga may mga students man japon nga nagatry to make a difference sa school... Nice Job sa mga officers and members sang link!!!! :cheers: worthy astig kayo mga tol!!!...

IMO, i think there are reasons why the E-election became a failure.. one of reasons cguro is the venue... Based on my observations sa school sang studyante pa ko, when organizing an activity, makes sure mo nga ang venue alagyan lang sa mga students... ara bala ang mahapit lang sila ya haw... its either ang student's lounge or ang canteen.... but since didto sa italian extension ginbutang ang venue.. pamatyag sang iban nga students ya layo2x na na, esp. sa mga mech tech, rac kag automotive tech... USG election is an important event sa school so i think dapat gd cguro nga i preparahan gd sang maayo kag i motivate gd ang mga students to participate and cast their votes coz dra ga depende kung either madayon o indi ang Interbarkada league.. lolz.. (just kiddin..)

Good luck to all Student Officers sang school!!!... Budlay nga may added responsibility ka pero pagmakagraduate na kamo makita nyo gid ang fruit sang inyo nga labor.... :thumb:

'A good LEader does not say Go and Fight.. but rather... Come Follow Me!!'


wowoweeeee.... :palakan


The KG - July 22, 2005 04:13 PM (GMT)
May i-add lang ko,

Its true that dissemination of info is one of the key factors for a successful election turn out(or any event you might want to hold).

Also, when I was a student in TUP-Visayas, I have not voted until I was in 4th year. I dont know why, but as far as i can remember, I did not know there were elections being held in TUP. You'd only know there would be an election when one of your classmates is running for a certain position.

So I would suggest:
1. Get everybody involved in spreading the information, teachers, class officers etc...

2. Give incentives to students who voted, lets say, a person who has voted will get a plus one(+1) in the same week's grade for a particular subject, say for example those really hard subjects...awat pa na ay...and it wont hurt the teachers as well kay 1 pt lang man ang i-add nila.

3. Give time for room to room campaign. Ang COMELEC na mangita paagi kung paano nila pahulagon na indi maka abala maayo sa classes sang mga students. They should get hold of the classs schedules, and ayu-on ang mga teachers. This will make more students aware of the student candidates. Tapos dapat may resume gid ang candidates, dapat mabal an ang experience sang candiate sa Student Gov't Organizations. In that way may background na ang voters about sa abilidad sang mga kandidato.

4. Get the attention of the students by doing some sort of a psychological warfare, ipaabot bi sang comelec sa ila na ma boto gd sila kay who ever wins will dictate the events that will be held in TUP V. Tapos hambalon abi ang mga students na, "indi kamo magboto tapos di nyo mauyunan ang gakalatabo, ga reklamo ta dayon...pero for all we know aton na sala kay possible wala ta nag botar..." Of course the talking must be done by the teachers, para may respeto ang mga studyante, kay kung kapwa studyante lang daw budlay gid...

Amo lang ni guro...I dont know if my suggestions are good, pero amo lang na mahambal ko ya ah...

reydon ace - July 23, 2005 04:22 AM (GMT)
Last year when this was implemented, it was really on its transition period and I thought this transition would stop up until there only. There are lots of problems that attributes to computerization of the elections:

1. First is the acceptance. Most of us don't like change. It's in my opinion that people are really afraid to be a little bit deviant on the current events. As for the case, implementing this would make the students feel a little different. The difference is somewhat good or bad depending on the perspective of the student. Some people might feel that this is cool; others, they feel that the essence of the "real" elections is destroyed.

2. There are also questions roaming around with this like the security and the secrecy of ballot. Another thing is that the reliability or validity of the elections.

3. If all these are agreed among the students already, the next thing to face is the classes. CLASSES ARE NOT TO BE DISTURBED!!! So, while the elections are going on, if the students have class in physics, math, or those with teachers who made their classes straight with no break, the students couldn't vote.

4. Another factor is that not all students have classes on that day. When the computerized legislative elections was first implemented, there was one section who doesn't have a class in the day of the elections. Seriously...

5. Also, since the programmers and implementors comes from the students themselves, those who wanted to be involved must really have a computer of their own to test the program. Well, the testing period here consist of two stuffs: the individual program and the network. The program might work in only a single computer but it might act differently on a network. The problem here is the testing on a network. It really takes time to test it on a network - the setup of the program, the database, and the network. It takes months to test a program for it to become bug-free but here in our school, it could only permittedly be done in one week or less (two days to be exact) since we are utilizing the comp. lab facilities and again: CLASSES ARE NOT TO BE DISTURBED!!!

6. Finally, the rest of the factors are left to the COMELEC and USG officers. Since they drive the student body, it would really be a failure without their support. Both the COMELEC and USG officers must be as interest as LINK (the computer enthusiast org) for the activity to be possible.

ismagel - August 4, 2005 01:06 AM (GMT)
Hi To all... :)

Im a member sang LINK ORG. kag one of the people nga nag-facilitate sang
election.

First gusto ko lang pasalamatan si Reydon Ace sa bulig niya para ma materialize ang election, thanks guid sa bulig mo nong.. we know na biskan busy ka sa review nag spare ka guid time sa amun. :)

gusto ko lang magdugang sa mga factors ngaa nubo ang voters turnout sang election nga gin-site dire.

1. I agree na isa na ang location nga guin-heldan sang ELECTION. Last year it was held sa STUDENT'S LOUNGE... Subong ya sa COMP LAB 3.. Which is tam-an ka isolated sang place kag hulungdon.

Maybe diutay pa guid nga support sa mga authorities nga mapahulam sa amun sang computer nga gamitun, Kay that time pasalamat na lang kami gane nga me-nagamit pa kami, kay guin problema pa to ang approval nga gamitun ang COMPLAB 3, kay ginagamit para klasehan.

Tapos di man to pwede masaylo ang mga computers that time sa lounge kay lewaton pa guid ang existing network settings kung saylo-saylohon pa ang mga computers. :( Kung pwede guid man la guro sang mga tawo nga mabulig sa amun kay busy man sila.

2. Regarding sa Information dissimination.

Well As far as I know... Nag-room to room naman ang COMELEC para ipabalo sa studyante na may election sa COMPLAB 3. Pero tane mas name pa guid kung nag butang sang daku nga Posters nga dali makita sang mga studyante.

3. Ang time allocation sang election. Kay last year biskan sa Lounge to gin-held la man japon kalambot 60% ang turnout.

Tane mayu na e extend ang 2-day-election nga guinhatag. Kay during this time ang iban tood ngaa studyante me mga klase, during free time lang sila makaboto. Biskan tood magbutang pa sang timetable para sa mga voters,
practically di guid na makuha ya nga mka encounter ang technical side sang downtime.






sphinx - August 4, 2005 04:56 AM (GMT)
to start....... good job guys......... to those who initiated these computerized election, its a job well done....... but in an avent like an election the most important factor is the dessimination of information........ the COMELEC should schedule a specific time to introduce the candidates for the positions ( flag ceremony maybe).... a room to room campaign will do also.... ( i had done this during my time)....... posting of POSTERS also is good..... we really have to show to the student body that their student organization do exist and is working for them........

To the new set of officers........ GOOD LUCK AND MORE POWER....

Lester Celiz
SAO President (SY 200-2001 :cheers: :shot: :smoke )




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